IM conversation with my Christian Cousin.

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IM conversation with my Christian Cousin.

Postby Qwertyuiopasd on Tue May 30, 2006 9:08 pm

it started out nice... but got a lil' messy. just for the record, she's about a year younger than me. (I"m Fuzzydadogluver)

[19:04] Lilhazellrigg: Hey
[19:04] FuzzyDaDogLuver: hey
[19:04] Lilhazellrigg: what's up?
[19:04] FuzzyDaDogLuver: just making some music
[19:05] Lilhazellrigg: @[smiley: Star: [29/29_4_34]] @[smiley: Star: [29/29_4_34]] @[smiley: Star: [29/29_4_34]] @[smiley: Star: [29/29_4_

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[19:05] Lilhazellrigg: cool
[19:05] Lilhazellrigg: how are you making music?
[19:06] FuzzyDaDogLuver: with Fruity Loops
[19:06] Lilhazellrigg: @[smiley: Bouncy: [4/4_1_1]]
[19:06] FuzzyDaDogLuver: a music program
[19:06] Lilhazellrigg: i like froot loops
[19:06] Lilhazellrigg: fruit
[19:06] FuzzyDaDogLuver: indeed
[19:06] Lilhazellrigg: so are you in high school now
[19:07] Lilhazellrigg: ?
[19:07] FuzzyDaDogLuver: no
[19:07] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I will be next year
[19:08] Lilhazellrigg: so you are in 8th grade?
[19:08] FuzzyDaDogLuver: yes
[19:08] Lilhazellrigg: weren't you in 8th grade last year?
[19:08] FuzzyDaDogLuver: no, I was in seventh grade last year
[19:08] Lilhazellrigg: well i thought you were in 8th!!!
[19:09] FuzzyDaDogLuver: you're finishing seventh right now, right?
[19:09] Lilhazellrigg: i have already finished
[19:09] Lilhazellrigg: we have been out of school since friday
[19:09] Lilhazellrigg: how about you?
[19:09] FuzzyDaDogLuver: bleah
[19:10] Lilhazellrigg: bleah?
[19:10] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I don't get out 'till the 20th
[19:10] Lilhazellrigg: lol
[19:10] Lilhazellrigg: @[smiley: Loser: [15/15_4_112]]
[19:11] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I'm not getting those smilies
[19:11] Lilhazellrigg: why ot
[19:11] Lilhazellrigg: not*
[19:11] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I dunno
[19:11] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I'm using Trillian...
[19:11] Lilhazellrigg: what ever that is
[19:11] Lilhazellrigg: so how is your cute dog?
[19:11] FuzzyDaDogLuver: good
[19:12] Lilhazellrigg: what is it's name?
[19:12] Lilhazellrigg: isn't it like a famous dead guy?
[19:12] Lilhazellrigg: or sumthing?
[19:12] FuzzyDaDogLuver: Leo
[19:12] Lilhazellrigg: leo...
[19:12] FuzzyDaDogLuver: after Leonardo DaVinci
[19:12] FuzzyDaDogLuver: yeah, famous dead guy alright
[19:13] Lilhazellrigg: who picked that?
[19:13] FuzzyDaDogLuver: we all did
[19:13] Lilhazellrigg: who is we?
[19:13] Lilhazellrigg: who came up with the name
[19:13] FuzzyDaDogLuver: the whole family
[19:13] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I dunno
[19:13] FuzzyDaDogLuver: we were all throwing names out
[19:13] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and we picked leo
[19:13] Lilhazellrigg: that is cool
[19:14] Lilhazellrigg: i want a dog soooooo bad
[19:14] Lilhazellrigg: i want a chawawa and i would name it Jingle Bell or Cohen!
[19:14] FuzzyDaDogLuver: whats a Chawawa?
[19:15] Lilhazellrigg: chiwawa
[19:15] Lilhazellrigg: that is how you spell it
[19:15] FuzzyDaDogLuver: Chiuaua?
[19:15] FuzzyDaDogLuver: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=6 ... ua&spell=1

*here's where things get interesting*

[19:16] FuzzyDaDogLuver: gar. damn smiley!
[19:16] Lilhazellrigg: ooooooooooooo you cussed
[19:16] FuzzyDaDogLuver: amazing
[19:16] Lilhazellrigg: shame on you
[19:16] FuzzyDaDogLuver: indeed
[19:16] Lilhazellrigg: yes
[19:16] Lilhazellrigg: you should ask God for forgiveness
[19:17] FuzzyDaDogLuver: you know I'm not christian
[19:17] Lilhazellrigg: you are
[19:17] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I'm not.
[19:17] Lilhazellrigg: you aren't?
[19:17] FuzzyDaDogLuver: nope
[19:17] FuzzyDaDogLuver: here's my religion's website
[19:17] FuzzyDaDogLuver: www.venganza.org
[19:17] Lilhazellrigg: another thing for shame on you
[19:17] FuzzyDaDogLuver: shame on you!
[19:18] Lilhazellrigg: for what
[19:18] FuzzyDaDogLuver: saying shame on me because I'm not christian
[19:18] Lilhazellrigg: it is a shame
[19:18] FuzzyDaDogLuver: why?
[19:18] Lilhazellrigg: you will not have eternal life
[19:18] FuzzyDaDogLuver: oh I will
[19:18] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I believe in a Heaven
[19:18] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and NO hell.
[19:18] Lilhazellrigg: oh no you won't
[19:18] FuzzyDaDogLuver: just Heaven
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: with a beer volcano and a stripper factory
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: (both genders of course)
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: its a very good heaven...
[19:19] Lilhazellrigg: how do you know you will go to heaven?
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: because my religion has no hell
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: everyone goes to heaven
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: why shouldn't they?
[19:19] FuzzyDaDogLuver: because they have free will?
[19:20] Lilhazellrigg: because God was testing them to see if they are guiltyof their crimes or if they will accept God and all he has done for us!

[19:21] FuzzyDaDogLuver: oh... thanks for correcting me
[19:21] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I thought your god was omni-benevolent
[19:21] FuzzyDaDogLuver: silly me.
[19:21] Lilhazellrigg: benevolent?
[19:21] Lilhazellrigg: what is that?
[19:21] Lilhazellrigg: and it is God
[19:22] FuzzyDaDogLuver: 1. Characterized by or suggestive of doing good.
2. Of, concerned with, or organized for the benefit of charity.

[19:22] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I just assumed that God would be benevolent
[19:22] FuzzyDaDogLuver: but you know what they say...
[19:22] Lilhazellrigg: omnipreset o
[19:22] FuzzyDaDogLuver: assuming makes an ass out of you...
[19:22] Lilhazellrigg: especially of you!!!
[19:23] FuzzyDaDogLuver: quite. I'll stop assuming things about God, being the clearly uneducated heathen I am
[19:23] Lilhazellrigg: that is true
[19:23] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so anyway. I don't think I can go to hell if I don't believe in hell... seems to break the laws of religion-physics
[19:24] Lilhazellrigg: do you believe the cell theory?
[19:24] FuzzyDaDogLuver: no. I belive this: www.venganza.org
[19:25] Lilhazellrigg: it says nothing it shows a stupid picture of a monster in a stupid book called the gospel
[19:25] FuzzyDaDogLuver: do you know anything about the scroll function?
[19:25] FuzzyDaDogLuver: its a very handy tool for the web
[19:25] FuzzyDaDogLuver: you go to the right of the window...
[19:25] FuzzyDaDogLuver: you click the arrows down
[19:25] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and you see the rest of the page! isn't it great?
[19:27] Lilhazellrigg: yes, how could a monster create the world when nothing created him!

[19:27] FuzzyDaDogLuver: nothing created him.
[19:27] FuzzyDaDogLuver: nothing will end him
[19:27] FuzzyDaDogLuver: FSM is eternal
[19:27] FuzzyDaDogLuver: FSM = Existance
[19:28] Lilhazellrigg: what did he just appear!
[19:28] FuzzyDaDogLuver: no
[19:28] Lilhazellrigg: ...
[19:28] FuzzyDaDogLuver: he's always been around
[19:28] FuzzyDaDogLuver: hasn't your god?
[19:28] Lilhazellrigg: yea
[19:28] Lilhazellrigg: what created FSM
[19:28] FuzzyDaDogLuver: nothing!
[19:28] FuzzyDaDogLuver: FSM is eternal
[19:28] FuzzyDaDogLuver: FSM = Existance!
[19:28] Lilhazellrigg: i get it
[19:29] Lilhazellrigg: do your parents believe FSM!?!?
[19:29] FuzzyDaDogLuver: no
[19:29] Lilhazellrigg: what do they believe>
[19:29] Lilhazellrigg: ?
[19:29] FuzzyDaDogLuver: my Mom worshipps the Divine Femminen
[19:29] Lilhazellrigg: what is that
[19:29] FuzzyDaDogLuver: Female Paganism
[19:29] FuzzyDaDogLuver: its like Wiccan, but not really
[19:29] Lilhazellrigg: wiccan?
[19:30] FuzzyDaDogLuver: witches
[19:30] Lilhazellrigg: why
[19:30] Lilhazellrigg: and your dad?
[19:30] FuzzyDaDogLuver: not so sure on my dad... he just kind of believes in something
[19:31] FuzzyDaDogLuver: we're Unitarian Universalist you see
[19:31] Lilhazellrigg: and your sister
[19:31] FuzzyDaDogLuver: my sister dosen't care
[19:31] FuzzyDaDogLuver: A religious association of Christian origin that has no official creed and that considers God to be unipersonal, salvation to be granted to the entire human race, and reason and conscience to be the criteria for belief and practice.
[19:31] FuzzyDaDogLuver: that's UUism
[19:31] FuzzyDaDogLuver: bascially, the 'believe whatever the hell ya wanna believe' religion
[19:31] Lilhazellrigg: thank i had no clue
[19:32] Lilhazellrigg: please you need to stop cussing!
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: hell?
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: doesn't the pastor say that alot though?
[19:32] Lilhazellrigg: is the UUthing your sis or dad
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: something along the lines of 'the heathens will go to hell?;?
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: all of us
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: except my sister
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: she doesn't care
[19:32] Lilhazellrigg: yea but they mean heaven or hell
[19:32] FuzzyDaDogLuver: you can be UU-something else
[19:33] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I"m UU-pastafarian
[19:33] Lilhazellrigg: no like what the ****
[19:33] FuzzyDaDogLuver: mom's UU-divine femminen
[19:33] FuzzyDaDogLuver: there some UU-hindu's at our church...
[19:33] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and the senoir reverend is UU-Zen Bhuddist
[19:34] Lilhazellrigg: why do you go to church if you don't belive it
[19:34] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I do.
[19:34] FuzzyDaDogLuver: church dosen't mean christian.
[19:34] Lilhazellrigg: ok we
[19:34] Lilhazellrigg: w/e
[19:35] FuzzyDaDogLuver: besides, I go to the youth program, not the actual services
[19:35] FuzzyDaDogLuver: they're kinda boring.
[19:35] Lilhazellrigg: lol
[19:35] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so what sect of christianity are you, exactly?
[19:37] Lilhazellrigg: sect.
[19:37] Lilhazellrigg: ???
[19:37] FuzzyDaDogLuver: sect: 1. A group of people forming a distinct unit within a larger group by virtue of certain refinements or distinctions of belief or practice.
2. A religious body, especially one that has separated from a larger denomination.
3. A faction united by common interests or beliefs.

[19:37] Lilhazellrigg: methodest
[19:37] FuzzyDaDogLuver: ah
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so do you still think I'm going to hell?
[19:39] Lilhazellrigg: yep
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: too bad.
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I believe you're going to heaven.
[19:39] Lilhazellrigg: you loss
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: the one with the beer volcanoe and stripper factory of course
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: no, I'm going too
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: although I"ll get instant access
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: you might have to scrub burnt pots in the humid dishwashing pit...
[19:39] FuzzyDaDogLuver: for a while at least
[19:40] Lilhazellrigg: well i don't want to see anynaked men or drink beer
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: hopefully you'll be of age. and you don't have to go to the stripper factory
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and its not just beer
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: the volcano flows with your favorite beverage of choice
[19:40] Lilhazellrigg: i have already made a promise to God that i will never in my life ever drink beer
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so for me, I'm getting Barqs root beer
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: aha!
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: but you'll be dead, and in heaven
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so no problems!
[19:40] FuzzyDaDogLuver: can't beat that logic!
[19:40] Lilhazellrigg: still not touching that stuff!

[19:41] FuzzyDaDogLuver: don't have to
[19:41] FuzzyDaDogLuver: why are you christian exactly?
[19:41] Lilhazellrigg: goos
[19:41] Lilhazellrigg: *
[19:41] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I mean, I could never believe in a god who sends people to hell.
[19:42] Lilhazellrigg: cause i belive that God saved us from our sins then gave us a free will to test us to see if we are worthy enough to be in his presence
[19:42] FuzzyDaDogLuver: thats what you beleive
[19:42] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I want to know WHY you believe?
[19:42] FuzzyDaDogLuver: believe.*
[19:44] Lilhazellrigg: because the very first book ever made was the bible and it is best book ever made and i believe it
[19:44] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I'm not sure its the first book ever made...
[19:45] Lilhazellrigg: most popular book
[19:45] FuzzyDaDogLuver: actually...
[19:45] FuzzyDaDogLuver: yeah.
[19:46] FuzzyDaDogLuver: lol
[19:46] FuzzyDaDogLuver: The Bible: Author: God
Copies sold: 6,000,000,000

OK, maybe not 6 billion, but a WHOLE lot. The Bible was clearly a page-turner from the start, and it benefited from good word of mouth publicity, flying off the shelves. The basic plot is that there's this omnipotent deity who creates a planet and some beings to inhabit it. These beings screw everything up, He washes them out with a flood, and then they come back and screw everything up again. As a character, He's a little bit inconsistent; He's a vengeful Guy one minute, then He's answering prayers the next. But you have to give it a chance.

The first chapter is called "Genesis," named after the rock group with the same name (the author was a huge Phil Collins fan). Then comes "Exodus," and in no time we have plagues, sacrifices, miracles, and holy wars all over the place. There's so much blood, gore, and sex, that we're surprised that the thing hasn't been banned by one of those moralistic groups that are always trying to ban something.
[19:50] Lilhazellrigg: here is an example of what God will do to you when you die...
Hello Andrew,
then he will get out your record and see if you ever changed you life and if it says no never made the best thing happened and then he will say next.!
[19:50] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so... purgatory?
[19:50] FuzzyDaDogLuver: I thought you said hell.
[19:51] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and why won't he call me by my preffered name?
[19:51] Lilhazellrigg: purga what?
[19:51] FuzzyDaDogLuver: ...
[19:51] Lilhazellrigg: cause that isn't the name he gave you
[19:51] FuzzyDaDogLuver: he didn't give me any name
[19:51] FuzzyDaDogLuver: my parents did
[19:51] FuzzyDaDogLuver: then I changed it
[19:51] FuzzyDaDogLuver: purgatory: 1. Roman Catholic Church. A state in which the souls of those who have died in grace must expiate their sins.
2. A place or condition of suffering, expiation, or remorse: a purgatory of drug abuse.

[19:52] Lilhazellrigg: no
[19:52] FuzzyDaDogLuver: purgatory is like being a ghost
[19:52] Lilhazellrigg: no such think as a ghost
[19:52] FuzzyDaDogLuver: right.
[19:54] FuzzyDaDogLuver: here is an example of what the FSM will do to you when you die...

wazzap loree? umm... you were kinda a bigot... soooo... you're going to have to clean the burnt pots... but its cool. it won't be for long. like.. maybe a week or something... I dunno. 'cause AJ's yer cousin. and he's cool in my book. so, wait it out. then you can go to heaven. trust me. it's awesome.
[19:54] *** Auto-response from Lilhazellrigg: if you do not believe in God that is comitting one sin compared to the ones you do everyday...

1. listening to bad things
2. saying bad thing
3. looking at bad things
4. lieing
5. disobeying
6. tlaking back
7. not thinking
8. not trusting God will help you when you are in need
9. not talking to God
10. not keeping God #1 in your life

Try it he will help
Psalm 31:14
But I trust in you, O LORD; I say, "You are my God."
[19:55] FuzzyDaDogLuver: Not Thinking...
[19:55] FuzzyDaDogLuver: so... thinking DOSEN'T include thinking about your spelling?
[19:56] FuzzyDaDogLuver: 'cause if not, then I don't know what tlaking or lieing are...
[19:56] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and I think you've commited number 10. because its not number 1...
[19:57] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and by the way, disobeying who?
[19:57] FuzzyDaDogLuver: and please specify on 'bad things'
[19:57] FuzzyDaDogLuver: as thats such a broad term its up for interpretation
[19:57] *** Auto-response from Lilhazellrigg: if you do not believe in God that is comitting one sin compared to the ones you do everyday...

1. listening to bad things
2. saying bad thing
3. looking at bad things
4. lieing
5. disobeying God
6. tlaking back
7. not thinking
8. not trusting God will help you when you are in need
9. not talking to God
10. not keeping God #1 in your life

Try it he will help
Psalm 31:14
But I trust in you, O LORD; I say, "You are my God."
[19:57] FuzzyDaDogLuver: loree, I know you're there
[19:58] *** "Lilhazellrigg" signed off at Tue May 30 19:58:05 2006.

interesting, no? I was sad to see she was "yeah, you're going to hell" so casually.
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Postby Zillax0rz on Tue May 30, 2006 9:37 pm

Post pics of Leo.
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Postby alexrose on Tue May 30, 2006 10:22 pm

Yes. We want to see your pooch. Is he still a pup?

Yes. Interesting convo...She sounds like she's quoting a textbook a lot of the time--possibly, because she is.

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Postby Ezkerraldean on Wed May 31, 2006 5:05 am

haha, i like the way she seemed to give up and ignore you at the end.

the first book, in my knowledge, was the Epic of Gilgamesh - which interestingly also talks about a great flood, but not a global one. the whole flood stuff probably does have some roots in an actual event.

you write music with fruityloops? wahey! someone else!
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Postby PirateKingOfTheGoldCoast on Wed May 31, 2006 11:26 am

Very interesting. I was kinda that way when I was in 7th/8th grade. Never think I told someone there where going to hell, though I can't be sure on that. Look at me now.
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Postby Sir Francis Drake on Wed May 31, 2006 1:19 pm

Very interesting conversation, Qwerty, and very typical. But you can hardly blame the poor thing. Her religion has scared her off thinking for herself under threat of eternal torment.

That kind of bullying makes the FSM cry :cry: !
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Postby thezeus18 on Wed May 31, 2006 4:04 pm

How sad. Surprisingly, christianity fits in very well with schoolyard culture. Whenever you try to be logical, both the cool kids and the christians interrupt you in mid sentence, saying something that infers that they're better than you because they don't understand you. Ignorance is cool. Internet Messaging is interesting because it is a undisputable fact that poor grammar and spelling, and messages with no content what so ever, are cool. I'm in grade 8 too.
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Postby thezeus18 on Wed May 31, 2006 4:07 pm

I don't think you should say that you believe in FSM because that, to me, undermines you. FSM should not try to be a religion, but an example for discussion. The point of FSM is "What's the difference between FSM and Christianity?"
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Postby Qwertyuiopasd on Wed May 31, 2006 5:08 pm

the conversation is sad, and I don't blame her. I just hope she'll grow out of it.

and, not to be disrespectful, but I don't care what FSMism should be, what you think it should be, or what it is; I sinceirely take the FSM as my deity.

theres some threads involving pictures of leo... do a search of posts with leo and picture as keywords.
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Postby FireFox on Wed May 31, 2006 5:21 pm

[19:27] Lilhazellrigg: yes, how could a monster create the world when nothing created him!


brain meet typing fingers, I know they can be connected in people.

I also think it is interesting that she just reverets to the near standard 'yelling you are evil' at the end

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Postby teripie on Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:35 am

Once again our Qwerty displays his maturity and makes us all proud. It's not really a very disturbing conversation. Qwerty's little friend is just a little girl when it's all boiled down. Bubbles and babbles much like a little parrot. She really has no clue to what she espouses. In no time she'll be on another crusade, not even of religious nature possibly.

An amazing thing happens to a person in the span of time between the ages of 12 and 20. They grow up and one day realize the things that were so important and compelling during that time period really don't matter. Junior high and high school social pressures that seem such a life and death thing burst like bubbles the day they leave school. Teenage angst is forgotten and maybe reflected upon many years later.

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Postby Alpaca on Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:54 am

Wonder what that'll be like for me. I'm in high school, and I nevertheless couldn't care less about what society wants or expects me to do.
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Postby NeferKa on Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:39 am

Qwerty, thank you for sharing. This conversation seems very familiar though!

What I find most amusing (disturbing) is that the Christian knows less about her religion than the person with whom she is debating. Sadly, I’ve seen this a lot at the collegiate level as well – in academic settings nonetheless!

At least Qwerty has proven to be a mature and rational representative of our faith! I am personally glad that I have a Deity who is nice enough to let us all revel in the beer volcano and won’t send us to eternal damnation for having the ability to think for ourselves!
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Postby PirateKingOfTheGoldCoast on Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:45 pm

Alpaca wrote:Wonder what that'll be like for me. I'm in high school, and I nevertheless couldn't care less about what society wants or expects me to do.


I was the same way. Still am really. I never cared about popularity or any of that crap. I didn't even go to the prom. All my friend had already graduated or where a year younger then me. I had no desire to hang out with a bunch of people I didn't like and listen to there bad music. :?

From my point of view, you kinda start to look at bigger things and get annoyed with people, more because alot of people never grow out of the high school mentality. They just keep doing the same crap they always have. The jerks are still jerks. The snobs are still snobby. The only ones that seem to change are the dorks/D&D people and a large percentage of the scary long haired kids. :D
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Postby kat on Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:34 pm

I'm in grade 8 too.


As is my Pastafarian 14 year old.

Hmmm. is 8th the time one gets touched in general?

(I was an atheist in 8th grade.)

You missed it....I accidentally didn't click quote...it said:
I'm in grade 8 too as is my Pastafarian 14 year old.
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