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Postby supercheetah on Sat May 05, 2007 12:59 am

Zankou wrote:
supercheetah wrote:When Satanism gets its symbol, why should Pastafarians be discriminated against?


I don't know much about LeVayan Satanism, but Satan is evil...

Uinless he used the root word, Shaitan, and it simply means "adversary", and has no other anti-christian stuff.
I suggest you do some reading.

And yes, Satan is used in the sense of "adversary," and not in the sense of evil.
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Postby Zankou on Sat May 05, 2007 9:29 am

That's an acceptable idea.

I would want one, I know that.
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Postby St John the Blasphemist on Sat May 05, 2007 11:19 am

Yeah, I've wondered why someone who seemed like the good guy in the Old Testament should suddenly become the embodiment of all evil just because of one little argument.

Back to the topic at hand. Here's what I want on my headstone/memorial plaque (rather than getting buried & wasting valuable real estate, I'd rather have someone mince me up & use me as blood & bone fertiliser in some sort of reforestation project):

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Minus the surrounding text & maybe a check on the Greek lettering (the writers of the Principia Discordia admit that, due to the innacuracies of the Ancient Greek typeface they used, the word in the apple probably doesn't say 'Kallisti').

That & the FSM logo.

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Postby Zankou on Sat May 05, 2007 7:48 pm

supercheetah wrote:
Zankou wrote:
supercheetah wrote:When Satanism gets its symbol, why should Pastafarians be discriminated against?


I don't know much about LeVayan Satanism, but Satan is evil...

Uinless he used the root word, Shaitan, and it simply means "adversary", and has no other anti-christian stuff.
I suggest you do some reading.

And yes, Satan is used in the sense of "adversary," and not in the sense of evil.



I read some of it.
Interesting.
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Postby Duke on Sat May 05, 2007 10:40 pm

MPTrooper wrote:Why do you feel an Atheist honestly needs more then one symbol?


What if I don't like that symbol? I want something that represents my lack of faith better. :wink:


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Postby Mathin on Sun May 06, 2007 2:44 pm

Duke wrote:
MPTrooper wrote:Why do you feel an Atheist honestly needs more then one symbol?


What if I don't like that symbol? I want something that represents my lack of faith better. :wink:


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Postby This Is Not My Name on Sun May 06, 2007 4:52 pm

I submit mine: (when i figure out how to put it on the board i will) a recycling symbol with the words "plant food" above and below, respectively.[/img]
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Postby EarthRise on Sun May 06, 2007 7:41 pm

I think we need a lack of symbol.

It would be lovely if the headstones were to have some kind of raised/sunken square section for the religious symbol, or some formation for where the religious symbol would be placed. Then we atheists could leave the thing blank.
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Postby Cuddly_Carpy on Sun May 06, 2007 7:56 pm

I want my grave stone to say "NAFF YOU!"

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Postby Zankou on Sun May 06, 2007 10:16 pm

EarthRise wrote:I think we need a lack of symbol.

It would be lovely if the headstones were to have some kind of raised/sunken square section for the religious symbol, or some formation for where the religious symbol would be placed. Then we atheists could leave the thing blank.



That would be appropriate, and I am sure MPT cannot object.
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Postby Duke on Sun May 06, 2007 10:25 pm

Or that space could be used for something meaningful to the deceased, if religion is not.


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Postby This Is Not My Name on Sun May 06, 2007 11:12 pm

Duke wrote:Or that space could be used for something meaningful to the deceased, if religion is not.


Duke

that's a realistic idea. good one too.
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Postby Occam on Mon May 07, 2007 7:19 am

Just think a moment about what a headstone actually is, for real.

Why does it have to be religious when the deceased is not? Why does religion even enter the discussion?

It is stupid to say that not having a religion is always counted as a religion. That's like saying being healthy is a form of disease. Not having a disease is not a disease. (Not saying religion is a disease, just making an analogy).
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Postby hexhunter on Wed May 09, 2007 6:20 am

My problem with that symbol is that it's the American Atheists symbol, an organisation which only a few atheists align to. Notably, the "AA" were headed by a very strange woman who just wanted to make people angry at her. A few decades ago they found here and some of here "followers" bodies and now theres a big conspiracy about people stealling their money.

The brights symbol might be better, but there are many who align to transhumanism, aswell as religions that people are curious about, like scientology. Why make a distinction between a religion someone thought of 2000 years ago and a religion somebody thought up 2 years ago?

Myself, I'd probably want both a pastafarian one and a humanist one...
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Postby Duke on Wed May 09, 2007 1:55 pm

Do existentialists have a symbol? If so, that's what I would want on my tombstone.


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