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Postby Zankou 2.0 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:31 pm

Capellini wrote:I'm finding the third book to be hella tedious. Could anything less interesting than those goddamn mulefas and that pain in the ass doctor be contrived? I don't think so.

I think the whole trilogy peaked in the first book and has been sliding down hill since then.


I think differently.

The mulefa were one of my favourite parts of the book. I was extremely annoyed every time Lyra's story was interupted to talk about Mary, don't get me wrong, but the mulefa's world provided a contrast to the dark and scary world of Christianity.

They existed, apparently untouched by the "evil" of the Church, and they are a prime example of how things should work, without the negative effects of Christianity(in the novel).

They are also important to the overall plot.

Tedious, boring, maybe, but not uninteresting.
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Postby ~NoodleDemon~ on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:34 pm

Pullman's pretty zany at times.
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Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:59 am

royall wrote:RAmazing book series. One of the best sci fi authors since the times of asimov and bradbury.

But... the books are fantasy, aren't they? Sure, there are elements of science fiction, but it's a fantasy tale!

Started on the second one yesterday. If only I could get out more than one book at a time from my school library.
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Postby Clifford on Sat May 10, 2008 12:51 pm

Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh
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Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Sat May 10, 2008 7:42 pm

Clifford wrote:
Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh

Harry Potter is a good introduction to reading for those who would normally not read.
Simplistic, yes, but you wouldn't want to start a kid off on reading War and Peace, or something to that effect.
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Postby Zankou 2.0 on Sat May 10, 2008 8:27 pm

Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh

Harry Potter is a good introduction to reading for those who would normally not read.
Simplistic, yes, but you wouldn't want to start a kid off on reading War and Peace, or something to that effect.


heh...If I hadn't started reading Harry Potter when I was younger, my life could be significantly different.

That book opened the whole world to me.
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Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Sun May 11, 2008 3:34 am

Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh

Harry Potter is a good introduction to reading for those who would normally not read.
Simplistic, yes, but you wouldn't want to start a kid off on reading War and Peace, or something to that effect.


heh...If I hadn't started reading Harry Potter when I was younger, my life could be significantly different.

That book opened the whole world to me.

I think it did for me too... I can't remember.

I think I was reading quite avidly before that.
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Postby Zankou 2.0 on Sun May 11, 2008 10:11 am

Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh

Harry Potter is a good introduction to reading for those who would normally not read.
Simplistic, yes, but you wouldn't want to start a kid off on reading War and Peace, or something to that effect.


heh...If I hadn't started reading Harry Potter when I was younger, my life could be significantly different.

That book opened the whole world to me.

I think it did for me too... I can't remember.

I think I was reading quite avidly before that.


I was 7. I don't know how avid I was, but I know Harry Potter broadened my mind.
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Postby farfalla on Sun May 11, 2008 12:35 pm

Z's experience addresses some of the reasons frightened fundamentalist will not allow their children near anything Harry Potter
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Postby Capellini on Sun May 11, 2008 3:52 pm

Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh

Harry Potter is a good introduction to reading for those who would normally not read.
Simplistic, yes, but you wouldn't want to start a kid off on reading War and Peace, or something to that effect.


heh...If I hadn't started reading Harry Potter when I was younger, my life could be significantly different.

That book opened the whole world to me.

I think it did for me too... I can't remember.

I think I was reading quite avidly before that.


And I think regardless of your age, the last 4 are an excellent story. The first 3 are necessary to get the entire scope and experience, but I felt that while the first 3 were essentially stand-alone novels for kids and adolescents, the last 4 formed a single story fully appropriate for adult readers.
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Postby lordpunkmonk on Sun May 11, 2008 4:16 pm

Capellini wrote:
Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Cap'n Turtlehead wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Capellini wrote:Certainly not the finest fantasy ever written.

Harry Potter, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Earthsea Trilogy all kick these books collective asses.


I deny Harry Potter

Earthsea however, is great.

But Potter? Argh

Harry Potter is a good introduction to reading for those who would normally not read.
Simplistic, yes, but you wouldn't want to start a kid off on reading War and Peace, or something to that effect.


heh...If I hadn't started reading Harry Potter when I was younger, my life could be significantly different.

That book opened the whole world to me.

I think it did for me too... I can't remember.

I think I was reading quite avidly before that.


And I think regardless of your age, the last 4 are an excellent story. The first 3 are necessary to get the entire scope and experience, but I felt that while the first 3 were essentially stand-alone novels for kids and adolescents, the last 4 formed a single story fully appropriate for adult readers.


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Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Mon May 12, 2008 1:14 am

Capellini wrote:And I think regardless of your age, the last 4 are an excellent story. The first 3 are necessary to get the entire scope and experience, but I felt that while the first 3 were essentially stand-alone novels for kids and adolescents, the last 4 formed a single story fully appropriate for adult readers.

Yeah, I couldn't have put it better myself.
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Postby ~NoodleDemon~ on Mon May 12, 2008 5:35 pm

Hmmm...

I like 'em all, but it was the third one that I think I liked best.

Dunno why...

7 was as little of a disappointment as you'd think possible, considering the hoopla.
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Postby EarthRise on Mon May 12, 2008 6:13 pm

~NoodleDemon~ wrote:Hmmm...

I like 'em all, but it was the third one that I think I liked best.

Dunno why...

7 was as little of a disappointment as you'd think possible, considering the hoopla.


The epilogue ticked me off to no end.
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Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Tue May 13, 2008 2:17 am

EarthRise wrote:The epilogue ticked me off to no end.

I saw a lady walk up to the big pile of HP: DH in K-Mart, the day it came out, read the epilogue and walk out. I had the book in my hand at the time, so that really put me off.

I think I read it in sixteen hours.

What annoys me is that a girl got in the paper for reading it in seventeen hours. A friend of mine read it in six, and neither of us got in the paper.
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