FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

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FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby KicknGuitar on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:57 am

I'd hate to say it (especially since I enjoy it so much) but in all seriousness and in all the senseless things I experience, the Satire I receive from Pastafarianism is the most senseless-less!
I love humor in general, from the risque to the corny. The FSM is one of the humorous attractions. Yet the way I view the concept of it is in an antitheist point, and so the satirical connections between the FSM and most Religion I find on the money. Sadly some are offended by this.

I do not fully understand if I should distance myself from this humor and stand up for what feel right and in my mind makes the most sense in this sometimes illogical world or stay hushed because such people I respect are telling me it is offensive. They usually claim that it is mocking them as if to their religion is stupid (which I believe) and therefore are stupid (which I can only partly believe since I know of their knowledge and it is NOT all religious, so it is possible they are not completely stupid in that respect, mine. If I have not expanded enough, feel free to ask me to do so on a specific.

Please give reasons too, or we be travlin' up shit's creek wit' out 'eh sail or paddle... or an E-Tec Evinrude!!
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Clifford on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:52 am

Woah woah woah it sounds like you think we satire religion here
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby GreenRain22 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:55 am

FSM is really a joke on Christianity. That's why I like it so much. I am somewhat of a Christian, but I don't believe in Jesus, Hell, and the Bible... what does that make me? O.o A jew?!

Anyway, It's been enjoyable for me, and I have no regrets about this. It's a great escape from the pressures of religon.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Rev. Rowan Redbeard on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:06 am

I think that the open letter was a satire on the ID movement, using similar logic and reasoning (if you can call it that).

However, the Gospel (in my opinion) was mean spirited and aimed at Christianity and the concept of creationism more than the ID movement.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Wawizzle on Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:10 am

Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:I think that the open letter was a satire on the ID movement, using similar logic and reasoning (if you can call it that).

However, the Gospel (in my opinion) was mean spirited and aimed at Christianity and the concept of creationism more than the ID movement.


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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Clifford on Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:25 pm

Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:I think that the open letter was a satire on the ID movement, using similar logic and reasoning (if you can call it that).

However, the Gospel (in my opinion) was mean spirited and aimed at Christianity and the concept of creationism more than the ID movement.


It was to satire intelligent design. Though people misinterpret it.

As for the Gospel when I first read it I was taken aback by the insults and slandering, but it's also sly. I gave it to a Catholic friend of mine to read, and she loved it. So did her step dad.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Wawizzle on Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:09 pm

Clifford wrote:
It was to satire intelligent design. Though people misinterpret it.

As for the Gospel when I first read it I was taken aback by the insults and slandering, but it's also sly. I gave it to a Catholic friend of mine to read, and she loved it. So did her step dad.



When it all boils down, its up to each individual to determine if something is offensive to them or not. Good to hear that they enjoyed it. :)
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Clifford on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:05 am

GreenRain22 wrote:FSM is really a joke on Christianity. That's why I like it so much. I am somewhat of a Christian, but I don't believe in Jesus, Hell, and the Bible... what does that make me? O.o A jew?!


No, it's a parody of intelligent design.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Almighty Doer of Stuff on Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:31 pm

Or more generally, it's a satire of religion being passed off as science. It touches upon global warming as a major component, as well.

I don't think the Gospel is anti-Christian. It's got a lot of parodies of Biblical stories from the Old and New Testaments, but as far as I remember they don't portray the subjects of those parodies in a negative light. Rather, they rewrite them, change them around, and reframe them to suit The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby PantyGnawer on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:52 pm

GreenRain22 wrote: I am somewhat of a Christian, but I don't believe in Jesus, Hell, and the Bible... what does that make me?


A deist.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby PantyGnawer on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:54 pm

Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:However, the Gospel (in my opinion) was mean spirited and aimed at Christianity and the concept of creationism more than the ID movement.


I think Bobby succumed to some pressure from his editor and publisher.

However, I didn't find it to be mean spirited.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Elastoman on Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:31 pm

Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:I think that the open letter was a satire on the ID movement, using similar logic and reasoning (if you can call it that).

However, the Gospel (in my opinion) was mean spirited and aimed at Christianity and the concept of creationism more than the ID movement.


Struck me as pretty damned funny. And yeah, it took some stabs, but good satire often does. The nice thing is that humor often uses a rubber knife.

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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Rev. Rowan Redbeard on Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:52 pm

I started dreading the rest of the book as soon as I read the introduction in which he insults the holy books of multiple religions with demeaning and/or derogatory names.

Here are a couple of other examples, from the Guide to Propaganda chapter.

Born Agains present a different set of challenges ... We are even hesitant to refer to them as Christians, because their behavior reflects badly on the majority of Christians who are not insane.


Christian Athletes ... If they think He's paying attention when they "give praise" during their interviews, then they're probably even dumber than they sound.
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Zankou 2.0 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:54 pm

Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:I started dreading the rest of the book as soon as I read the introduction in which he insults the holy books of multiple religions with demeaning and/or derogatory names.

Here are a couple of other examples, from the Guide to Propaganda chapter.

Born Agains present a different set of challenges ... We are even hesitant to refer to them as Christians, because their behavior reflects badly on the majority of Christians who are not insane.


Christian Athletes ... If they think He's paying attention when they "give praise" during their interviews, then they're probably even dumber than they sound.

How is that inaccurate?
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Re: FSM a Joke: Personal Interpretation

Postby Rev. Rowan Redbeard on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:17 am

Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Rev. Rowan Redbeard wrote:I started dreading the rest of the book as soon as I read the introduction in which he insults the holy books of multiple religions with demeaning and/or derogatory names.

Here are a couple of other examples, from the Guide to Propaganda chapter.

Born Agains present a different set of challenges ... We are even hesitant to refer to them as Christians, because their behavior reflects badly on the majority of Christians who are not insane.


Christian Athletes ... If they think He's paying attention when they "give praise" during their interviews, then they're probably even dumber than they sound.

How is that inaccurate?


Implying that Born Again Christians are insane is insulting and inaccurate. They have faith in something and believe it powerfully. They may be fanatical, but that is not the same as insane.

Also, faith is about belief without evidence. If these athletes do believe in a God that is all knowing, how can it be stupid to think that He is paying attention when they praise Him? (My use of capitals is due to the fact that it is a specific god being talked about.)

He is also stereotyping throughout the book (which is something that I have major issues with). People are not defined by the groups they are associated with.
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