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Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby Cap'n Tedward » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:18 am

Okay, so, we [should] all know that the current modern concept of pirates is a Disney fabrication. The 50's version of Treasure Island is where all these extra RRs came from. Fine.

And now, having just completed watching all four of the PotCaribbean movies, I see they're trying to rewrite lore once again. Particularly, the third movie introduces pirate "royalty". It's CRAP! Yet another cultural stripmine. What's next? Blackbeard on ice? *shudder*

So what say ye? Should disney be keel hauled or just made to walk the plank? :whip:
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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby DavidH » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:50 am

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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby Roy Hunter » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:11 am

I say we go and pillage his body from its cryogenic storage, and ransom it for peetzer an chocklit milk, er, I mean rum and wenches.
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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby Cap'n Tedward » Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:52 pm

HArr like all those little damsels in their teeny-bop shows?
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Postby Roy Hunter » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:17 pm

Cap'n Tedward wrote:HArr like all those little damsels in their teeny-bop shows?
You mean like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera? We'll let Tigger at Twisty have Justin Trousersnake, though...

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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby Roland Deschain » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:19 pm

I don't blame Disney for changing our beloved Pirates, as it's their interpretation. Considering how they've interpreted many other things, it could have been a hell of a lot worse (I like the PotC movies). They tend to sanitise everything, not surprisingly, giving girls impossible idols to look up to, and changing history. Not until Shrek was it considered ok to not conform to the size 0 princess who's perfect in every way. Their princess stories were traditionally about young women giving up everything just to get with the prince.

Then you have to look at what they do to their child stars. Cases in point are Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera and Miley Cyrus. Incidentally, it was partially Britney's idea to market herself as a virginal 16 year old in a skimpy school uniform at the beginning of her, for want of a better word, singing career.
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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby Qwertyuiopasd » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:54 pm

I think Disney and the POTC movies have done much for our cause, bringing people back into the fold of piracy. Yes, some bits in the movies get dumb, but we ignore them, don't we?

And for Disney movies, they are fairly... dark? That doesn't feel like the right word, but people die violently in those movies. You really don't get that too often. So considering that, I think we have more to thank the pirates for what they've done for Disney, rather than the other way around.

I do agree, though, that we need some better pirate movies out there.
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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby black bart » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:16 am

Qwertyuiopasd wrote:I think Disney and the POTC movies have done much for our cause, bringing people back into the fold of piracy. Yes, some bits in the movies get dumb, but we ignore them, don't we?

And for Disney movies, they are fairly... dark? That doesn't feel like the right word, but people die violently in those movies. You really don't get that too often. So considering that, I think we have more to thank the pirates for what they've done for Disney, rather than the other way around.

I do agree, though, that we need some better pirate movies out there.


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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby Cap'n Tedward » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:20 pm

Umm, the idea that pirates add a lot of extra RRRs to their speak is also a Disney fabrication.

Robert Newton, one of the most popular actors of the mid-twentieth century, was born in Dorset in the West Country, but travelled to Hollywood to make films, including two in the early 1950s which have coloured our perception of pirates ever since. In Treasure Island (1950) and Blackbeard the Pirate (1952) Newton played Long John Silver and Edward Teach (Blackbeard) respectively, and since both men supposedly came from Bristol, Newton used his natural West Country accent for both parts. Both films were, and indeed still are, popular and the larger-than-life Newton has become forever after associated with pirates.

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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby DavidH » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:28 pm

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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby gronank » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:01 pm

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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby daftbeaker » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:05 pm

Cap'n Tedward wrote:Umm, the idea that pirates add a lot of extra RRRs to their speak is also a Disney fabrication.

Yarr, everyone knows pirates have Brizzle accents. Gert lush :idiot:
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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby black bart » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:50 am

Bloody cheek tis thee way I speaks normal and so it be aarrrrrgh!

I be hexpectin ta be called in as adviser to thee next Disney Film n all...not as make up adviser though. :paranoid:
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Re: Disney - Evil or just pathetic?

Postby CaptainLongPig » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:58 am

Thurr be one thing I didn't see in A Stranger Tide with Black Beard and that is he wasn't wearin' his trademark lit fuses in his hair. Other than that I be supportin' Disney on there portrayal of the piratey kind. Although they did skirt the peaceful candy givin' pirates of yore. They can't be blamed for such historical inaccuracy since all the documents have been altered.


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