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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby la la on Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:36 am

Hi! My name is Claudia, and I want to talk to you about subjective versus objective existence!

Having finally taken a break from doing all the boring responsible things I am compelled to do as a member of adult society, and having picked a title for this very serious thesis, I sat down at my keyboard to write this all full of vim and vinegar and Aaaargh! Before beginning though, I read over everyone else's theses, and now I feel quite intimidated and very much doubtful of the likelihood of being up to par! I only hope the peer review commitee has all manner of flimsy standards, not only moral ones...

My title: Why is the FSM not like a writing desk?

Caveat 1: Quoting with references aside, I have to admit that this idea was not entirely my own, thought up completely out of the blue by no one else but me, with no outside influences to assist. The fact is, Neil Gaiman is my second favourite fanatsy author of all time, and his book American Gods really got me thinking about this subject. Plus he's a much better writer than I am and uses a fantastic story to do full justice to the subject of what the gods need from humanity. Also, my title is ever so slightly borrowed (nicked) from Lewis Carroll.

Caveat 2: Since today I am sick to death of all the bloody formal research bloody papers I keep having to do (does "bloody" count as a cuss word? Does "flimsy moral standards" mean I can cuss with impunity in this thesis?) in order to get my Religious Studies degree, I have absolutely no intention of doing much proper research, or indeed of referencing anything with the (bloody) Harvard method. I fully intend to just wing it and, indeed, make it up as I go along.

Justification 1: Thank goodness for flimsy moral standards, that's all I can say! I'm feeling barely even a twinge of guilt. I feel so good I think I'll abandon a contents page completely and just jump right in:

Quote 1: "Remeber, however, that there is a difference between the desk and society in the sense that, unlike the desk, society cannot be external to all the individuals in society. ...society would cease to exist without people. But the desk would still be there, even if everybody disappeared from the face of the earth." (*referenced at the end of the page)

I wish to compare God/gods/any form of personal deity to society in the above example, in that he/she/it/they have no existence independent of humanity. I intend to contend that gods exist in the same way as Justice exists, or Beauty, or any other abstract virtue of your choice, which is to say as a sort of anthropomorphic personification. Gods exist because people exist, and not independently of them.

As the old philosophical question puts it: If a pirate falls overboard (probably on account of having first fallen into the rum keg) and there's no one around to hear it, does he make a splash? This is a very handy question, philosophically speaking, and it also, conveniently, is unaffected by the observer effect, and remains unaffected even if I was the one who pushed him over, as I clearly was not even there at the time and neither saw nor heard anything.

And the answer to that particualr question, I submit, is completely irrelevant. And can't be proven in a court of law either. Moving on, we have to ask the question: If every single person disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, would god (any god, all gods) still continue to exist? I submit: no. Which is my whole point. I have a lot more to say about this and it's very difficult to get myself to shut up sometimes, but I feel I should wrap this thing up before somebody suggests twenty lashes for wasting everyone's time.

Suffice it to say that if we are willing to grant that subjective existence is, in its own way, a valid form of existence, then the FSM truly does exist. (And so does Odin-gallows-lord, and Anansi, and Quetzalcoatl, and Bast...) He just doesn't exist in the same way as a writing desk does. There are also a number of demonstrable ways the FSM is superior to a writing desk, but I don't feel we need to go into that now. I propose simply that if He exists then he exists because we believe He does - belief creates a form of existence. If someone truly believes in that invisible elephant on his (above his?) head, then for him that elephant does exist, for a given value of existence. Which means that rather than humanity needing gods, it is in fact the gods who need us. Point Proven! Roughly.

Whew! That's done then! If it's disordered it's because I was too Sunday-afternoon-lazy to do a better job, and because my brain is always a bit disordered, and because all the words try to rush out at once instead of waiting their turn. And if anyone has any counter-arguments I beg of you to have it out with me with cutlass and pistol, or failing that to argue with me vociferously. I love a good rip-roaring debate, and the people I live with refuse to argue religion with me anymore because they say I use ridiculous arguments to make my point. (Just because one time I happened to mention the Turtle that carries the world on its back).

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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby pieces o'nine on Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:16 pm

There does not seem to be a full quorum of Peers available at the mo to review your most thought-provoking and well-executed thesis. Perhaps they are at tea, or sleeping off their Saturday night post-holy day celebrations, or something of the sort. Nonetheless, I wish to assure you that this thesis shows great promise and you are almost certainly assured (as much as one can ever be really sure of anything in this uncertain life) of receiving your certificate as soon as Roland "The Dispenser" Deschain logs on and feasts his ocular nerves on your efforts.

If I may be so bold, I would urge you to go ahead and specify which certificate style you prefer at your earliest convenience. Welcome to the Hallowed Halls of Ivory Tower Pirate Intellectualism.
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Roy Hunter on Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:01 pm

Review notes for la la:

Caveat 1:
References are for getting a job, not theological discourse. No worries there.
As for the source of your title: "Talent borrows, Genius steals", Oscar Wilde.

Caveat 2:
Swear as much as you fucking like. No-one gives a bastarding shit about it.
"Winging it" and "Making it up as I go along" is entirely compatible with theology.

The only other thing I have to add is that if a pirate falls overboard, then the pirate him/herself is there, and since sound travels better in water than it does in air, then someone does indeed hear the splash. If this observation contradicts your conclusions then feel free to either ignore it or bury it in an appendix which no-one will ever read.

Congratulations! Top class piece of work. Not as ramblingly insane as my own, or as informative about refreshing beverages as Pieces O' Nine's, but wonderfully vague in a definitive and conclusive fashion. A proper piece of theology all round.

I'll PM Roland and alert him to your triumph.
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Mad Willyum Bonney on Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:44 am

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Oarbull wasta toym !
Dint unnarstanz a woid !
Wot ye jibbrun on bowt oil neffar noz

Welkum abord matey !
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby la la on Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:18 am

Y'all are too kind! Can I please have the pretty rainbow-coloured certificate Roland? I just love pretty colours...
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Roland Deschain on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:28 am

Ask and thou shalt receive, oh acolyte of the Pastafarian Doctoral Thesis, but before I bestow upon thee thy PPhD, I have a few points:-

1 - You didn't mention the 2 sons of Anansi, which was a grave oversight. :haha:

2 - I hope you berated the people you live with for denigrating Great-A-Tuin, and denying he/she exists. :whip:

3 - The rum was poisoned. :drunk:

In the spirit of loose morals, here's your fucking doctorate:-

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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby daftbeaker on Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:44 am

Roland Deschain wrote:In the spirit of loose morals, here's your fucking doctorate:-

Surely that's for a Pastafarian Dogging Thesis :idiot:
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But why is the rum gone?!
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby la la on Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:37 am

Thank you most heartily for my lovely degree Roland, I'm going to go out and make some friends right away so that I can show it off to them! It's bloody decent of you to go to so much trouble though, so thank you. I do apologise for not mentioning Charles and Spider - you're quite right, that was a grave oversight on my part, and as far as Great A 'Tuin goes, I've had to tell my folks that they're going to have to owe me an apology one day, when his/her existence is finally proven....
I'll let you know if I have any problems with the image, but so far imageshack seems to be cooperating, praise FSM.

And now to celebrate! Aaargh! *Hands out rum/beer/shirely temples all round*
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Roy Hunter on Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:48 pm

Congratulations. And don't call me Shirley.
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Roland Deschain on Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:18 pm

My sistren pirate, thou art very welcome to take of my time. Besides, it didn't take long as I have templates ready to go, lol. :haha:

I'm sure Charles and Spider will be ok with you not mentioning them, as their glory is reflected from their father. Mostly... :haha:
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Nef Yoo BlackBeard on Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:07 pm

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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby la la on Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:06 am

Well of course you can have a shirely temple, Neff Yoo, and what good manners you have! Who's a polite fiercesome little pirate lad then? You are! I can't imagine why everyone keeps trying to lock you up in the bilges you adorable little ruffian :grin:
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Mad Willyum Bonney on Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:36 pm

Dr. la la wrote:Well of course you can have a shirely temple, Neff Yoo, and what good manners you have! Who's a polite fiercesome little pirate lad then? You are! I can't imagine why everyone keeps trying to lock you up in the bilges you adorable little ruffian :grin:


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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Roland Deschain on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:09 am

Doctor la la, PPhD, whilst I applaud your kindness, it is, in this instance, egregiously misplaced. :haha:
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Re: Pastafarian Theology Doctoral Theses

Postby Rev. Daniel Scott on Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:43 pm

I would like to inquire as to whether the University is still accepting theses.

My thesis is entitled CotFSM Scriptures: Lost in Translation

It heralds the retranslation of the biblical scriptures used by so many Christians. As preliminary work to be contained in the thesis, the first ten chapters of Ghettisis (commonly mistranslated as Genesis) have been re-examined and translated to their original form lauding His Noodliness, Sauced on High, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Pastafarian Doctoral Dissertation: Accepted

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Biblical
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Ghettisis (CH 1-10 complete)
He Who is a Servant of FSM
Narwhal
Couscousum
Zozuniah
To Build or Not To Build
Covenant of Olive

NP:
Midas
Sailamon
2, 3 ParmaJohn
Jude's Kitchen



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Confusion Analects: Book I


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